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talk about the fiscal cliff and politicians talk about the fiscal cliff. we're wondering whether mom and pops at home talk about the fiscal cliff. is a lack of a budget deal actually spooking shoppers out on main street? >> it is. walmart told us 75% of their customers have cite that had they are worried about the fiscal cliff. mandy, you and i were on last week talking about the luxury retailers and we called out saks saying business pre-holiday was particularly weak. what are the people in the stores telling me all week, saying that this is the worst pre-christmas they had seen in over a decade, and part of that was because their consumers are worried about the fiscal cliff, so note to the government. it does matter. >> yeah, but that's, as you say, part of it. laura, what else is going on? it just felt like we were going into a lackluster season here. what happened? >> i mean, there's been some discussion about weather trends as well, but whether or not we go over the fiscal cliff, consumers think next year we'll see higher taxes and lower entitlements.
talk about the fiscal cliff and politicians talk about the fiscal cliff. we're wondering whether mom and pops at home talk about the fiscal cliff. is a lack of a budget deal actually spooking shoppers out on main street? >> it is. walmart told us 75% of their customers have cite that had they are worried about the fiscal cliff. mandy, you and i were on last week talking about the luxury retailers and we called out saks saying business pre-holiday was particularly weak. what are the people...
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we're getting complacent about the fiscal cliff. people are for getting about just about everything. why not get out, take a look and re-evaluate. >> are you saying everybody go to cash? >>> you know what, obviously there's going to be a small mix of stocks, bonds, cash. you know what, why don't you keep your cash. what you could do for next year, maybe if we do get a selloff maybe you could find some great entry points in the beginning of next year. >> anthony grisante, what do you think? anthony? >> it's very prudent to do that right now. i think you see the volumes on the exchanges. i know in crude oil it's about half of what it usually is. bonds, the same thing. a lot of people are staying on the sidelines. i think you have to be ready for when a deal is done and ready to jump back into the markets. >> here's the thing. i mean, when he says he's in nothing, he's not saying he's going short but anybody who's got a long portfolio and has to sell, it's the equivalent of going short, right? telling people to sell at this point is a
we're getting complacent about the fiscal cliff. people are for getting about just about everything. why not get out, take a look and re-evaluate. >> are you saying everybody go to cash? >>> you know what, obviously there's going to be a small mix of stocks, bonds, cash. you know what, why don't you keep your cash. what you could do for next year, maybe if we do get a selloff maybe you could find some great entry points in the beginning of next year. >> anthony grisante,...
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as we said, we are about to go over the fiscal cliff. if a deal is not reached to avoid the fiscal cli by january 2nd, automatic domestic and military spending cuts will kick in and the pentagon will be forced to cut $9 million in spending. >> if lawmakers can't avoid the fiscal cliff, they may be able to avoid a different cliff, the dairy cliff. house and senate members appear likely to extend farm legislation for a year, a deal that would keep milk prices skyrocketing in january. we were worried about $6 gallon of milk. it could keep a decades old subsidy from coming back to life. the usda would be forced to buy milk at prices well above what farmers were getting now if the subsidy was revived. it could double the price of moib to $6.12 a gallon. >> markets have been reacting to each move on capitol hill, but obviously, things at this point are looking like the dow would open down by about 7.5 points. the dow is off 67 points and the nasdaq is down 14.75 points. all the surprised given the late hour that -- >> even if something doesn't
as we said, we are about to go over the fiscal cliff. if a deal is not reached to avoid the fiscal cli by january 2nd, automatic domestic and military spending cuts will kick in and the pentagon will be forced to cut $9 million in spending. >> if lawmakers can't avoid the fiscal cliff, they may be able to avoid a different cliff, the dairy cliff. house and senate members appear likely to extend farm legislation for a year, a deal that would keep milk prices skyrocketing in january. we...
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goes over the fiscal cliff. speaker john boehner has called the house back into session sunday evening. house majority leader eric cantor is telling his members to be prepared to work through january 2nd. both sides are still far apart on taxes and spending cuts. harry reid says prospect deals by monday are unlikely. minority leader mitch mcconnell says there's still time for an agreement. >> republicans aren't likely to sign a blank check just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be fair to the american people. >> now, a new reuters poll shows americans blame republicans more than democrats or president obama for the fiscal crisis. and when asked who they held more response, 27% said the gop, 6% pointed to the dems and 30% said all of the above. for more on this, we're joined by christian schultz from barronberg bank. welcome. so we're going over the fiscal cliff. >> well, the consumer confidenc already be over the cliff in terms of confidence already. that might already be the firs
goes over the fiscal cliff. speaker john boehner has called the house back into session sunday evening. house majority leader eric cantor is telling his members to be prepared to work through january 2nd. both sides are still far apart on taxes and spending cuts. harry reid says prospect deals by monday are unlikely. minority leader mitch mcconnell says there's still time for an agreement. >> republicans aren't likely to sign a blank check just because we find ourselves at the edge of the...
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only four hours to go until america goes over the fiscal cliff. the dow jones industrial average down 113 points. had been down 148 points. look at that as we come on the air back above 13,000 level, not by much. the nasdaq, the biggest decline. 33 points. below 3,000 now at 2957. actually, hasn't been below 3,000 before that. s&p lower by 14 points. a decline of 1%. 1405 so holding onto the 1400 level. president obama is back at the white house. all eyes are on senate lawmakers now. amam jabbers is in washington. >> reporter: president obama did cut his vacation short in hawaii. he has arrived back at the white house this morning. the president emerging from marine one. what he's going to work on here in washington is pretty much anybody's guess at this point. the senate came back into session this morning and senate majority leader harry reid took to the senate floor to explain that he thought a $250,000 and above extension of the tax -- bush tax cuts could, in fact, pass and he was extremely, extremely angry in ways that you really hear on the
only four hours to go until america goes over the fiscal cliff. the dow jones industrial average down 113 points. had been down 148 points. look at that as we come on the air back above 13,000 level, not by much. the nasdaq, the biggest decline. 33 points. below 3,000 now at 2957. actually, hasn't been below 3,000 before that. s&p lower by 14 points. a decline of 1%. 1405 so holding onto the 1400 level. president obama is back at the white house. all eyes are on senate lawmakers now. amam...
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the fiscal cliff. >>> the dow erases a 150 point decline on news that the house will be back in session on sunday evening. and time is rubbing out to avoid a strike at 14 major east coast ports. a work stoppage to cost the economy $1 billion a day. it's friday, december 28th, 2012. and "squawk box" begins right now. >>> good morning and welcome to "squawk box" here on cnbc. and it does feel like we're living a bit on the edge of the fiscal cliff, at least. i'm andrew ross sorkin along with joe kernen and becky quick is off today. our guest host this hour, ed kehone. he's the management associate portfolio manager and we are thrilled to have ed aboard for -- i think you'll be here for longer than an hour. you'll be here for the whole broadcast. >> as long as you need me. >> you're like -- how long were you at -- you were at prudential. >> it's owned by prudential, so i've been at peru don'tal for almost 15 years now. >> widely quoted. you know who has made a comeback is ralph -- >> akampora. >> i've see
the fiscal cliff. >>> the dow erases a 150 point decline on news that the house will be back in session on sunday evening. and time is rubbing out to avoid a strike at 14 major east coast ports. a work stoppage to cost the economy $1 billion a day. it's friday, december 28th, 2012. and "squawk box" begins right now. >>> good morning and welcome to "squawk box" here on cnbc. and it does feel like we're living a bit on the edge of the fiscal cliff, at least....
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is now on the edge of the fiscal cliff. hours to go until the deadline and as we get closer in theory, the pentagon is getting ready to layoff quite literally thousands of employees because of the automatic spending cuts that go into effect if no deal is reached in d.c. at midnight. we have more on that fall out, hunter? >> how you doing simon? ? yes, just to flush out a little bit of what ber that was talking about, is delaying the spending cuts, down to the wire of the fiscal cliff negotiations. it is an absolute must across the potomac river at the pentagon. there would be a $55 million in spending, about 10% cut in many programs while a lot could be delayed, the most immediate contingency is notifying an estimated 800,000 civilian employees about furloughs in the new year. south carolina senator lindsay graham after he was contacted by secretary of defense leon panetta. >> he says if we do that, it will shoot the defense department in the head and we will have to send out 800,000 layoff notices at the beginning of the y
is now on the edge of the fiscal cliff. hours to go until the deadline and as we get closer in theory, the pentagon is getting ready to layoff quite literally thousands of employees because of the automatic spending cuts that go into effect if no deal is reached in d.c. at midnight. we have more on that fall out, hunter? >> how you doing simon? ? yes, just to flush out a little bit of what ber that was talking about, is delaying the spending cuts, down to the wire of the fiscal cliff...
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the fiscal cliff is scary and should be scary. another recession. higher unemployment. economic slowdown. tax money taken out of the economy. those are major concerns. we're going to have to react as a business and it could result in cutbacks. the fiscal cliff was meant to be something that nobody wanted to go anywhere near, and here we are about to go off it. we really need our elected officials to figure this out. come up with a reasonable compromise that keeps our economy growing and gives us some certain about the future so we can make our plans as business leaders. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. >>> fiscal cliff fears pushing stocks lower but we're well off those lows right now and news that the house
the fiscal cliff is scary and should be scary. another recession. higher unemployment. economic slowdown. tax money taken out of the economy. those are major concerns. we're going to have to react as a business and it could result in cutbacks. the fiscal cliff was meant to be something that nobody wanted to go anywhere near, and here we are about to go off it. we really need our elected officials to figure this out. come up with a reasonable compromise that keeps our economy growing and gives...
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that's not even part of the fiscal cliff. that's in addition to the fiscal cliff. we're looking at an avalanche of regulations that were drawn up in the first four years of the obama administration, but then conveniently only beginning to be made public after the president's job was secure. his job is secure. now yours may not be, because hundreds of billions of dollars in regulatory costs are hitting the economy. look at what epa and others are doing. >> right. but grover, speaking of magicianship, you appear to be doing that right now. it looks like rates will increase. that technically is not a good thing for you and your pledge. >> it's a very bad thing for the economy, because what they're talking about is some -- allowing the rates to go back up, not just back up. remember, we go back -- the bush tax cuts disappear and you add the obama care tax increases. so they're taking the top rate not to 39.6, but to 43.4 for half of all small business income in the country. and people at high income earners of the united states. add to that the 35% corporate income tax
that's not even part of the fiscal cliff. that's in addition to the fiscal cliff. we're looking at an avalanche of regulations that were drawn up in the first four years of the obama administration, but then conveniently only beginning to be made public after the president's job was secure. his job is secure. now yours may not be, because hundreds of billions of dollars in regulatory costs are hitting the economy. look at what epa and others are doing. >> right. but grover, speaking of...
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>> it might be the fiscal cliff. one of the interesting trends we've seen in the last few months was business spending was taking a hit as companies scaled back their expansion plans, worried that we might be heading into ae investigation in 2013 because of the fiscal cliff. but we didn't see similar behavior on the part of consumers. what you're seeing now might be a sign that consumers have, in fact, begun to react to some of the evidence in the air, that things will be rough in the coming year. so i think what we see from the consumer confidence numbers out later today in the united states will be interesting in that regard. now, the one word of caution i would put in here is a lot of these informal retail surveys such as by the shopping center's association, they often don't line up well with the official numbers that we get from the u.s. government. >> so true. we also can look at the difference and say, well, maybe holiday discretionary spending wasn't as strong, but retail spending generally held up okay. mayb
>> it might be the fiscal cliff. one of the interesting trends we've seen in the last few months was business spending was taking a hit as companies scaled back their expansion plans, worried that we might be heading into ae investigation in 2013 because of the fiscal cliff. but we didn't see similar behavior on the part of consumers. what you're seeing now might be a sign that consumers have, in fact, begun to react to some of the evidence in the air, that things will be rough in the...
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the one thing that can scuttle it is if we do fumble the fiscal cliff. if it becomes a problem and the u.s. goes off the rales, the dollar yen becomes in trouble. the japanese side of the equation will continuously pressure the b.o.j. we'll probably try to target that 90 level that abbe wants by next year. that's how the trade sets up for now. >> boris, good to talk to you as always. i like the casual friday look. i hope we didn't drag you in this morning? >> no, you didn't, but i did have to shave for you guys. >> happy new year. we'll see you on the other side. >> we'll see you. >> don't forget to check out money in motion. it airs on cnbc at 5:30 eastern. time to play a little year end hold 'em or fold 'em. let's start with the good ones, fellas. the year's biggest dow gainers. there they are, home depot, jpmorgan, bank of america. >> hold 'em, hold 'em, hold 'em, all of 'em. >> all three. >> you must like home depot if you like the home builders. >> love home depot. love jpmorgan. bank of america we're out of. >> take a look at the losers. we'll disc
the one thing that can scuttle it is if we do fumble the fiscal cliff. if it becomes a problem and the u.s. goes off the rales, the dollar yen becomes in trouble. the japanese side of the equation will continuously pressure the b.o.j. we'll probably try to target that 90 level that abbe wants by next year. that's how the trade sets up for now. >> boris, good to talk to you as always. i like the casual friday look. i hope we didn't drag you in this morning? >> no, you didn't, but i...
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we're talking about the fiscal cliff. >> it hasn't got ensigned into law. there's no success yet there. >> boehner should move it tomorrow. he should just do that. >> jonathan? >> listen, the president campaigned on a three to one spending reduction and we're not see anything spending here. democrats controlled two-thirds of the chips. >> joy ann, why is this all about taxes? >> one reelection and the -- it doesn't do that much spending. >> it's been all about taxes. >> all about raising taxes. >> there's this obsession with raising taxes. >> it was to go after school lunches and elderly care, health care for poor kids and increased spending. >> no, no, no, they want entitlement reform, joy ann. why this obsession with cutting old people's medicare? >> it's not an obsession about cutting benefits to the elderly, joy ann. it's about reforming medicare over time so at some point in the future we don't tell an 80-year-old you know what? you're not going get the medicare cha you thought you would have. this is about not hurting the elderly. >> the republican so
we're talking about the fiscal cliff. >> it hasn't got ensigned into law. there's no success yet there. >> boehner should move it tomorrow. he should just do that. >> jonathan? >> listen, the president campaigned on a three to one spending reduction and we're not see anything spending here. democrats controlled two-thirds of the chips. >> joy ann, why is this all about taxes? >> one reelection and the -- it doesn't do that much spending. >> it's been...
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fiscal cliff deal. meantime, treasury warns the government will hit its legal borrowing limit by monday. it's thursday, december 27th, 2012 and "squawk box" begins right now. >>> good morning and welcome to "squawk box" here on cnbc. i'm andrew ross sorkin along with joe kernen. becky continues to have the day off today. our guest host today is bob broska. house speaker john boehner urging the senate to come up with a passable fiscal cliff solution. he's promising to at least consider any bill that the upper chamber produces. senate majority leader harry reid now expected to base any legislation on a bill passed earlier this year to continue tax breaks for households will incomes below $250,000. a senate bill would likely contain an extension of expiring unemployment benefits. and the other big news of the morning, treasury secretary tim geithner unveiling a plan to buy time under the debt ceiling. in a letter to congress, geithner saying that treasury is going to begin taking steps this week to delay h
fiscal cliff deal. meantime, treasury warns the government will hit its legal borrowing limit by monday. it's thursday, december 27th, 2012 and "squawk box" begins right now. >>> good morning and welcome to "squawk box" here on cnbc. i'm andrew ross sorkin along with joe kernen. becky continues to have the day off today. our guest host today is bob broska. house speaker john boehner urging the senate to come up with a passable fiscal cliff solution. he's promising...
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there's no deal, no new offer on the fiscal cliff crisis. president obama has just told the two senate leaders they should make the deal. the results immediately felt in the financial markets. look where the dow closed down 158 points when it became very clear nothing was happening and now take a look at where the numbers are in the after markets. we would open now down 315 points on the dow if we started trading now. down 315 points. we have much more on this throughout the rest of the program, but the market's very unhappy. we do have some good news to report tonight. looks like at least one cliff has been averted for the time being. the so-called container cliff. the union that represents dock workers and u.s. maritime lines came to an agreement today to extend their current contract for 30 days. this is a big relief now for the retail industry and consumers who were staring at real destruction again for the supply chain. here now is jonathan gold and he's vice president of supply chain and customs policy for the national retail federatio
there's no deal, no new offer on the fiscal cliff crisis. president obama has just told the two senate leaders they should make the deal. the results immediately felt in the financial markets. look where the dow closed down 158 points when it became very clear nothing was happening and now take a look at where the numbers are in the after markets. we would open now down 315 points on the dow if we started trading now. down 315 points. we have much more on this throughout the rest of the...
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the looming fiscal cliff. aides for both parties now saying a partial agreement or patch probably the most that we can be expecting before january 1. >> i think we're dealing now with whether or not we can put off the -- the increase in tax rates. that's really all we can deal with now. >> the next session of the senate is now set for tomorrow. the house has nothing on its schedule for this week. members have been told they could be called back within 48 hours' notice. meantime, and this i guess is also the big news, the white house saying the president's going to be flying back from vacation in hawaii today. a lot of people making something of that. i don't know what it means ultimately. >> well, one thing it means -- >> a show of something. >> if i had to get back from hawaii at a minute's notice, you know what it would be. the president will have an easier time of it, i think. right? >> i noticed a couple of news reports saying the cost of the last-minute flight is about $250 -- >> he's the president, he's
the looming fiscal cliff. aides for both parties now saying a partial agreement or patch probably the most that we can be expecting before january 1. >> i think we're dealing now with whether or not we can put off the -- the increase in tax rates. that's really all we can deal with now. >> the next session of the senate is now set for tomorrow. the house has nothing on its schedule for this week. members have been told they could be called back within 48 hours' notice. meantime, and...
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on the fiscal cliff. republicans have been resisting that by announcing the debt ceiling limit will be held on monday, ratchets up the pressure to include the debt ceiling piece in the final package, whatever that may be, but still not clear, carl, there is going to be a final package of any kind. one quick note, we saw the realism. pact in the real world of the debt situation. treasury announcing yesterday it has suspended the sale of state and local government securities, government series securities. so already, they are doing some maneuvering here financially to try to avoid that debtly limit. the treasury secretary says he doesn't know how much wiggle room they are going to have, given that all the fiscal cliff uncertainty is out there. >> eamon, on this idea that the house members get called back with 48 hours' notice. traders are looking for that headline if it happens almost that bleed out there or procedural moment where that is announced, so to speak? >> a good question. i have been in touch wit
on the fiscal cliff. republicans have been resisting that by announcing the debt ceiling limit will be held on monday, ratchets up the pressure to include the debt ceiling piece in the final package, whatever that may be, but still not clear, carl, there is going to be a final package of any kind. one quick note, we saw the realism. pact in the real world of the debt situation. treasury announcing yesterday it has suspended the sale of state and local government securities, government series...